1. Royce says:

    I am often amused by people who believe science answers the question of why. Science can only tell how some state of affairs has come to pass. It can not tell why it has come to pass. Both “how” and “why” deal with causality; however, only “why” deals with an intelligent or purposeful cause. Science deals with the “how” question quite well. Theology and Philosophy deal with the “why” question. These disciplines can deal with the “why” question with a good deal of rationality I might add. As a matter of fact, it is Naturalist Philosophy that considers the disciplines of Theology and Philosophy as irrational; thus, the Naturalist cuts off a good deal of Epistemological support for his own position. The Naturalist, in order to claim rationality for himself, must cheat by stealing rationality from disciplines that he considers irrational.

    • Steve Taylor says:

      I think creation science deals with the ‘whys’ and ‘hows’ very well but secular science is clueless. They can only observe the ‘now’ with any decent perspective. Evolution is the greatest fairytale of all time. It’s not only not scientific, it’s religious. False religion at that.
      My wife is a scientist and had to unlearn almost everything they taught her in college. It’s sad that our schools are so anti-Christ even though the latest polls show most people don’t buy into evolution.

      Good article Rebecca

  2. I never thought about what kinds of questions the different disciplines answer. Wow! That’s insightful, Royce.

    I’m not sure “how” deals with causality, though. It seems more procedural, not motivational.

    And yes, Theology and Philosophy do deal with the why question in a rational way.

    I love your closing line—stealing rationality from disciplines that he considers irrational. Excellent!

    Becky

  3. Ken Rolph says:

    Messiah hero. There is a massive confusion here today. My understanding of this was jogged by several incidents. An old issue of Zadok Perspectives had an article proposing Ned Kelly as a type of Australian Christ figure. I watched the Matrix movies. In an old isue of the Canadian Dreams and Visions I saw an ad for a poster of “the warrior Christ”. It basically had a red faced warrior with a mohawk haircut. Then I heard Obama refered to as a messiah hero.

    The original idea of the messiah seems to have been some warrior leader who would free his people and kill their enemies. This is what many people were expecting of Jesus. He disappointed them. He didn’t seem to be capable of killing any enemies or overthrowing any oppressors. All he could manage was to transform his followers. This transformed the idea of messiah into something different to hero. Here’s how to tell the difference.

    A hero kills to save his people.

    A messiah dies to save his people.

    Ever since Jesus, anyone who claims to be a messiah and kills is a fake.

    It is surprising how many people are still unable to disentangle these ideas. How persistent is the idea of a pwerful, possibly superhuman, killing machine hero come to save us all by defeating our enemies. That’s one excellent way of botching up any kind of Christian symbolism.

    • Even many Christians may overdose on the idea that Jesus came to defeat the Devil. He did, but as a corollary. As you said, Ken, His main goal was to die to save rebellious us. And to that I would add that the true Messiah doesn’t die to save His people from enemies, but to save His enemies themselves.

    • Christian says:

      Ken, yes, some of those parallels are definitely pushing it but I think The Matrix reflects something of the nature of a messiah-figure, Gnositic/Buddhist content not withstanding. Still, Jesus is the one true Messiah and stories show reflections of this truth (some more than others).

      • Ken Rolph says:

        “Jesus is the one true Messiah and stories show reflections of this truth (some more than others).”

        Some examples would be useful. I don’t see a lot of fictional works like this. In fact, the only recent one I can think of while sitting here is the film Gran Torino. Moviemakers more than writers are in love with gunplay. Any time you see that rain of glittering brass shell casings bouncing with metallic kachings on the ground you are not in the presence of a Jesus style messiah. Maybe that’s because in general movies have to show things, which is why I prefer reading books.

What do you think?